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Post by IvanTheImpaler on Oct 22, 2007 10:44:35 GMT -5
Just noting that it has been over 6 months since the last TNA post.....
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Post by B2 on Oct 22, 2007 19:43:03 GMT -5
A topic bump? hmmm...
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Post by Vitoscarfone on Nov 13, 2007 9:22:37 GMT -5
The reason no one has been posting regarding TNA might be no one cares.Or like Myself,they haven't seen the show in Months.From what I understand their PPV Buy rates have fallen to a Level last seen when they were on a Weekly basis.They are not,and never will be,viable competition for Vince.
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Post by B2 on Nov 14, 2007 22:54:33 GMT -5
They need a live show, just like I told Jimmy Hart after the 2nd BPB, without a live show on cable to compete, so to say if not on same night and time as RAW, they won't be in the same league unless drastic changes are made.
Until a consistent live show is produced weekly, it will never be on the same level.
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Post by Mike O'Shea on Nov 20, 2007 2:28:59 GMT -5
It could do well with a taped show. But they should get a live show but that won't happen until they get a stronger following. If they do get a live show they should not go head to head with RAW, which dixie Carter was talking about recently in a statement.
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Post by Vitoscarfone on Nov 20, 2007 9:39:17 GMT -5
Live Show or Taped show is completely Irrelevant as long as the Booking is nonsense,the Underneath talent(X-Division specifically)is treated as a Uncompetitive joke,and they look like the Triple AAA ball club for WWE castoffs.
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Post by B2 on Nov 21, 2007 16:40:06 GMT -5
It's VERY relevant to have a live show. numbers for a taped SmackDown vs. live Raw is astounding, overly obvious to everyone here. I know that if Smackdown was live on CW, its numbers would jump a point to a point and a half just by the fact that people no longer know the results beforehand [like me] and want to watch what happens.
However, I do agree with you Vito, with your observation about TNA vs. The Fed.
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Post by Mike O'Shea on Nov 22, 2007 2:22:06 GMT -5
They should give it a shot first to see how the ratings are like WWF did with The Main Event. It is also a cost thing as well. It would cost more to do the show live suring prime time I would think. Anyone know how TNA is doing financially, it hasn't been mentioned in a while.
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Post by Marc Mandrake on Nov 23, 2007 14:29:51 GMT -5
It's VERY relevant to have a live show. numbers for a taped SmackDown vs. live Raw is astounding, overly obvious to everyone here. I know that if Smackdown was live on CW, its numbers would jump a point to a point and a half just by the fact that people no longer know the results beforehand [like me] and want to watch what happens. In regards to this... I am not so sure I agree with you I think the majority of people who potentially would watch Smackdown, prefer to do other things on Fridays then stay home and watch a show that the WWE treats as "second best" to RAW I am not saying the talent on Smackdown is second best, but McMahon has always viewed RAW as his top show I dont think Smackdown going live would make much of a difference... where I do think possibly changing the day of the show may I think a few things impact the numbers between live RAW and taped Smackdown... Monday nights, people typically are tired, first day back at the job after a long weekend... they typically dont go out, they will stay home and watch football, or wrestling, more often then not Friday nights on the other hand, most people want to go out and start their weekend... some families have "family" nights, that typically do not involve wrestling, and so on As a matter of fact, Fridays are not a very popular night for TV as it is, with only one TV show in the top 15 cable shows being on a Friday... and no TV shows in the top 20 network channel shows, fell on a Friday Smackdown is, despite what some may think, considered a inferior product... some people, live or not, just wouldnt watch Smackdown Personally, I am not a big fan of Smackdown... and I am sure there are others who feel that way Plus... one of the examples you gave of live over taped, was reading the results online The percentage of potential Smackdown viewers who read the results and decide not to watch, is probably pretty small For the most part, those looking for the results are smart marks, who by far do not make up the majority of the WWE's fans, unlike other indy promotions -Marc
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Post by B2 on Nov 24, 2007 12:57:55 GMT -5
Mr. Mandrake, that was a spot on and 100% accurate account of why Smackdown has become what is has today.
I'm thinking hold it on Wednesday nights, and you might see a jump, albeit a small one, in ratings. But in order to have a quality show as far as ratings are concerned, the aura of a nearly 100% [sans the pre-prod vignettes and such] live show far outweighs live to tape. I really don't see any significant change in ratings in either TNA or CrapDown until they go live.
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Post by Mike O'Shea on Nov 26, 2007 20:42:04 GMT -5
That is the big thing. You have to put Smackdown(which I like) or TNA on early in the week as Marc said. Friday is not a good night. The demographic for the WWE is the 18-35 male. That demographic isn't sitting at home on a Friday night. TNA should go on Tuesday nights, but the problem is they tape tuesdays don't they?
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Post by Vitoscarfone on Nov 28, 2007 8:47:29 GMT -5
One thing You guys are forgetting is that Spike is a Relatively weak Network-The Highest Rated Show was Ultimate Fighter which still only did 1.5 as it's high(Around 2.2 Million viewers).TNA'S highest rating for a Show was 1.2 so at their Strongest they're a Far cry from WWE at it's weakest.The Night they're on doesn't matter-They for the most part don't have a Product that will translate to the masses,and most important they're still not drawing at the House Shows(the Few they do)with any consistency.DVD Sales are apparently Solid though,so that helps.
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Post by Kriegbaum on Nov 28, 2007 11:34:45 GMT -5
WWE at is weakest is currently happening... known as ECW... which is only getting 1.3's maybe, sometimes lower. So how is that a far cry?
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Post by Mike O'Shea on Nov 28, 2007 19:06:59 GMT -5
Well from tha main product they are far behind yes I will agree. They need to get back to what people liked and that is the athleticism and the X division which sets them apart. Also the night does matter some what because the earlier in the week would be better certainly not in the time slots they had it. Tuesday at 8 or 9 would be perfect.WWE drew well on spike so it can't be suck a weak station. Tna can still draw well. We all know they need to do something, it is just to ficgure out what> I don't think they need Nash and Hall working the shows that is for sure. maybe they need to work on the booking a bit.
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Post by B2 on Nov 30, 2007 23:06:04 GMT -5
They need to start by totally re-branding ECW and getting away from what was once a proud franchise, and change the name and image of that brand to something that fits what it is trying to do, and be that developmental brand to be a springboard for wrestlers to go on to bigger and better things.
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